{"id":42183,"date":"2023-03-29T12:48:40","date_gmt":"2023-03-29T12:48:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/?p=42183"},"modified":"2023-11-17T14:30:33","modified_gmt":"2023-11-17T14:30:33","slug":"view-from-the-top-ovell-barbee-sphr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/market-insight\/industry-leaders\/view-from-the-top-ovell-barbee-sphr\/","title":{"rendered":"View from the top &#8211; Ovell Barbee, SPHR"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide post-content-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-7387b849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-in-our-most-recent-edition-of-view-from-the-top-we-interview-experienced-hr-consultant-speaker-author-and-thought-leader-ovell-barbee-sphr\">In our most recent edition of &#8222;View from the top&#8220;, we interview experienced HR consultant, speaker, author and thought leader &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ovellbarbee\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ovell Barbee, SPHR<\/a>.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"536\" src=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-1024x536.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42187\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-768x402.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-1536x804.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/03\/OvellBarbee-2048x1072.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-is-the-most-valuable-leadership-lesson-you-learned\">What is the most valuable leadership lesson you learned?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The most valuable leadership lesson I learned is being comfortable with \u201cthe worst possible outcome\u201d. When you experience this, it allows you to operate with less worry and restrictions.&nbsp;A boss stated to me \u201cfor you to be the most effective leader you can be, you have to be ok with the worst possible outcome!\u201d&nbsp;She posed the question to me by asking \u201cwhat\u2019s the worst thing which could happen to you at work?\u201d My answer was \u201cI could be fired.\u201d And she asked me to tell her what I would do in the event that I was fired. My answer was simple \u201cI would dust myself off, update my resume, my spirituality would help me and I would find another job.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-is-most-important-to-you-in-building-your-leadership-brand\">What is most important to you in building your leadership brand?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Being the author of the answer to what I describe as one of life\u2019s most compelling questions: \u201cHow will you be remembered?\u201d It is important that the decisions you make and the behaviors you model as a leader are in line with what you would want others to say about you. While you have an opportunity, you should embrace \u201cscripting\u201d the answer to the question.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-is-the-most-significant-challenge-you-faced-in-the-dei-space\">What is the most significant challenge you faced in the DEI space? <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By far, the most significant challenge I have faced in the DEI space is silence.&nbsp; Without dialogue there are no opportunities to dialogue and to learn. Repeatedly, I found that, when necessary, conversations needed to be held about racism, discrimination, or diversity, oftentimes, the room (mostly filled with upper-management leaders) would go completely silent. &#8222;Crickets.&#8220; One of the reasons why management avoids the necessary conversations that push for change is the fear of making people feel uncomfortable. In order to have change, we have to learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-why-is-important-to-have-systems-thinking-at-the-forefront-when-making-recommendations-to-dismantle-disparate-outcomes-in-the-dei-space\">Why is important to have \u201csystems\u201d thinking at the forefront when making recommendations to dismantle disparate outcomes in the DEI space?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I am a proponent of making recommendations that are systemic to address root causes leading to disparities in outcomes we see highlighted through data. My focus in the work is on policies, procedures and practices. I refer to those as the &#8218;Three Ps&#8216;. Policies need to be reviewed to ensure they are not leading to inequities. Many policies have continued to exist without regular review and are not aligned to be reflective of current workplace practices. Procedures are just as important as written policies.&nbsp;If an organization has a procedure in place that does not allow for diverse perspectives to be considered, it could lead to an offensive ad, for example, which could be irreparably damaging to a company\u2019s reputation. I always highlight the point that if your policies and procedures that you have formalized are not being enforced or practiced, it could lead to continued unfavorable outcomes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\">\n\t<div class=\"hd-block hd-block-author\" id=\"block_b11d2b07dd9e4a76aaaeab4b1f095e64\">\n\n\t\t<div class=\"eyebrow-group\">\n\t\t\t<h3 class=\"hd-block-job__title is-style-eyebrow eyebrow-group__title\">Author<\/h3>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t<div class=\"cards cards--people\">\n\n\t\t\t\n<div class=\"card card--person post-2384 hd_person type-hd_person status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry hd_person_experience_focus-contract-interim hd_person_sector-banking-and-financial-services hd_person_sector-consumer-retail-hospitality hd_person_sector-government-and-non-profit hd_person_sector-manufacturing hd_person_sector-pharma-life-sciences hd_person_sector-professional-services hd_person_sector-tech-media-telecoms hd_person_seniority-principal-recruiter hd_person_specialism-hr hd_person_specialism-payroll hd_person_location-us\" id=\"block_b11d2b07dd9e4a76aaaeab4b1f095e64-person-2384\">\n\n\t<div class=\"card--person__inner\">\n\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<figure class=\"card__image-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/consultants\/widlyn-presume\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/03\/Widlyn-Daniels-300x300.png\" class=\"card__image test\" alt=\"\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, (max-width: 781px) 50vw, (max-width: 1023px) 40vw, (max-width: 1200px) 25vw, 370px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/03\/Widlyn-Daniels-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/03\/Widlyn-Daniels-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/03\/Widlyn-Daniels-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2014\/03\/Widlyn-Daniels.png 1000w\" \/><\/a>\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__titles\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"card__title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/consultants\/widlyn-presume\/\">Widlyn Presume<\/a><\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"card__subtitle\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/consultants\/widlyn-presume\/\">Principal Recruiter<\/a><\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__location\">US<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__email\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"card__contact-link card__contact-link--email\" href=\"mailto:widlynpresume@frazerjones.com\">widlynpresume@frazerjones.com<\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__tel\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"card__contact-link card__contact-link--tel\" href=\"tel:+16465026431\">+1 646 502 6431<\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__linkedin\">\n\t\t\t\t<a class=\"card__contact-link card__contact-link--linkedin\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/widlyn-daniels\/\">Connect<\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\n\t<\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n\n\n\t<div class=\"hd-block hd-block-jobs is-style-reduced alignwide\" id=\"block_1a048577ed37035081639b6240e9e9bf\" style=\"\">\n\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<div class=\"eyebrow-group\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"hd-block-job__title is-style-eyebrow eyebrow-group__title\">Jobs<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<div class=\"cards cards--jobs\">\n\n\t\t\t\n<div class=\"card card--job post-192500 job_listing type-job_listing status-publish hentry\" id=\"block_1a048577ed37035081639b6240e9e9bf-job-192500\">\n\n\t<a class=\"card__link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/job\/talent-operations-associate-192500\/\">\n\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"card__tags\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__tag card__tag--srgroup_job_industry\">Professional services<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__tag card__tag--srgroup_job_contract\">Permanent<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"card__title\">Talent &amp; Operations Associate<\/h4>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__content\">Our client is a boutique global professional services firm who is seeking a Talent &amp; Operations Associate. 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This is a pivotal role offering the opportunity to gain broad exposure across talent acquisition, employee experience, [&hellip;]<\/div>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t<ul class=\"meta__list meta-list--icons\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__salary meta__item\"><span class=\"meta__item-label\">Salary<\/span> <span class=\"meta__item-value\">USD90000 &#8211; USD120000 per annum<\/span><\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__published-date meta__item\"><span class=\"meta__item-label\">Posted<\/span> <span class=\"meta__item-value\">Ver\u00f6ffentlicht vor 3 Stunden<\/span><\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\n\t\t<p class=\"card__read-more\">Read more<\/p>\n\n\t<\/a>\n\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"card card--job post-192340 job_listing type-job_listing status-publish hentry\" id=\"block_1a048577ed37035081639b6240e9e9bf-job-192340\">\n\n\t<a class=\"card__link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.frazerjones.com\/de\/job\/hr-business-partner-192340\/\">\n\n\t\t\n\t\t\t<ul class=\"card__tags\">\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__tag card__tag--srgroup_job_industry\">Financial services<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<li class=\"card__tag card__tag--srgroup_job_contract\">Permanent<\/li>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<\/ul>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<h4 class=\"card__title\">HR Business Partner<\/h4>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"card__content\">Role: Senior Human Resources Business Partner Location: New York, NY In Office Schedule: 4 days in office Compensation: Up to $200k base salary plus bonus Our client is a well-established global alternative investment firm known for its entrepreneurial culture, high-performing teams, and continued growth. 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This role is an addition to the firm&#8217;s growing US Recruiting team and will support the Global Head of Recruiting with team leadership on the ground. 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